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"Immune Towns" - will they ever drop?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:34 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fear that we'll be 'rescued' and the housing prices will never fall is not based on reality. If we are rescued for real, then the econmy will pick up and we'll all be doing great. Will this happen in the near term? Absolutely unlikely, because of the massive porkulus bill and other future spending. If you give every homeowner $10k and 15% of them lose their jobs, this will do nothing to save those who can not pay for their mortgage on a home they can not afford. Its a double-edged sword: if we start changing the mortgage terms - we will start hurting banks, and then we will have to keep pumping money into them, which will not lead to anything good. So in short, this is more of a political 'spread the wealth' gimmic, just like lowering taxes for '95% of Americans', which is bogus, because 40% do not pay any taxes.

Do not pay attention to political rhetoric, but do pay attention to the fundamentals. While prices may never fall in Boston, the people here are just as affected as in CA, and are probably a lot more stubborn. Yes, a longer unemployment will probably keep most of those who lost their high end jobs afloat (and lets not forget hefty severance packages). This year - do not expect prices to fall significantly in places like Newton (though we may be surprised), but do keep your patience. This trip may take longer than anticipated.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:59 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokyo Girl wrote:
JCK,

Are you going to buy a foreclosure?
I will probably buy from a realtor, who only sells houses on MLS.
So, it matters to me.
If it is taking forever to put the foreclosures on the market, that is not going to affect the price much, while someone is living in the foreclosed home for free.


Unlikely that I would. Most foreclosures are either going to be snapped up quickly (if they're in good shape), or are going to be absolute disasters. Unless you are personally into major renovations (and have skills and time to do them yourself) I don't see myself going the foreclosure route.

I just don't think there are very many foreclosures in decent neighborhoods.

You can looks around for them on trulia.com, which lists places that have foreclosure deeds.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:44 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The prices will fall but they will just fall much more slowly. Without government help, we may have been able to buy houses in 2 years. With government help, we're going to have to wait 5-10 years. This is no accident as the government wants to spread the losses among as many people as possible as the losses are quite large. A house may need to drop from$600k to $300k, for example. They can dump $300k on the current homeowner or they can dump $150k on the first and $150k on the second. By keeping houses off the market they give sellers more time to sell their houses and increase the likelihood that you will buy higher up on the way down. If you want to buy when housing prices finally reach bottom, you'll just have to wait longer.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:05 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
JCK wrote:

Those who are holding out for good deals in nice towns are going to have to wait some more.


I just spot checked Newton. The median price for a single family went up from $850K to $909K. (Who are these people!?) The number of sales was way down, though. There were 19 sales in January 2009, compared to 33 last January and sales in the 40's for January in most of the rest of the history. Volume is where the declines first showed up for the broader market when the downturn began.

- admin


FYI,

Newton Sales this week: 2

255 DERBY ST - sale price - $452,500 / assessed value $514,900

20 KENSINGTON ST sale price -$410,000 / assessed value $484,300
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:31 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see the asking price for those as well.
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