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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:48 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you about accountability. I can not agree at all with this: "Humans are lazy creatures and very few possesses these traits. "

Please read John Taylor Gatto's book, The Underground History of American Education System (I provided a link above - but you can buy it on Amazon for cheap).

Everybody is curious and everybody has the capacity to learn. If you place them in the right environment that is, and that doesn't cost much at all. I believe that many kids lose the ability by school age. When they are born kids have the capacity. I'm afraid that by the time they are 2 or 3 they may lose it because it is not developed properly. Doesn't mean they have to get 'schooling' when they are that young, but it does take parental involvement to develop it (and no TV). Many kids lose this ability because it is not developed, and this is why we see complete disinterest. On the other hand, most homeschooled kids develop this ability, and can therefore benefit immensely by the online resources.

I listed the brick and mortar ones just to illustrate that they are available to anybody who seeks them, but of course we plan to use online resources when the kids are a bit older. Kids DO need to interact with other kids (though not in age or otherwise restricted classrooms), and especially with other kids who are eager to learn new things. You are exactly right though - there are entire high school curricula online if anybody wants to use them (we probably will not). I prefer that kids go into the world and take classes with other people (preferably much older), so that they develop good communication skills.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:58 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

GenXer wrote:
I can not agree at all with this: "Humans are lazy creatures and very few possesses these traits. "

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Everybody is curious and everybody has the capacity to learn. If you place them in the right environment that is, and that doesn't cost much at all. I believe that many kids lose the ability by school age. When they are born kids have the capacity. I'm afraid that by the time they are 2 or 3 they may lose it because it is not developed properly. Doesn't mean they have to get 'schooling' when they are that young, but it does take parental involvement to develop it (and no TV). Many kids lose this ability because it is not developed



I concur about curiosity, however, I'm not so sure if it's purely a developmental issue.

I think the primary issue is that for the most part, school/academics becomes a game rather than a place where one's natural abilities or interests blossoms. I remember isolating myself and reading the Junior Britannica, while other kids were simply wasting time, even during the 4th/5th grades. But then, when it came time to pleasing the instructors, a certain percent of students always complied with the rules. Thus, it seemed like *grandstanding* was rewarded but not curiosity.

Yet, it's all fine because it's important, prior to the age 12, to learn a bit about how the group operates and how the system is intrinsically limited. Afterwards, with a steady homeschooling program, a lot more can occur because as a soon-to-be adult, being able to follow in one's own path is more important than being in another group think program.
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